EVE Evolved: Stellar council - one month on
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Since its inception, the CSM has been plagued with problems and disputes. From the beginning, it was clear that a surprisingly small proportion of the playerbase were interested in the whole thing. Only 11% of players voted and of those even fewer actively participate in presenting issues to the council. With such a low voting turnout from the general EVE populace, it was argued that organised alliance voting made up the majority of the votes. Disputes escalated to new heights with the conclusion of the third official CSM meeting but recent meetings have seen vast improvements across the board.
At this one month anniversary, I look back on the problems that have plagued the council of stellar management and how they've been handled.
The chairman:

The public vote for the council's members served a dual purpose. The results of the vote determined both the members on the council and who the chairman would be. With the highest number of votes, Jade Constantine was made chairman of the council for the next six months. Reception of the news was varied, with some players supporting Jade and others predicting that the council would fail horribly under his guidance. Almost immediately, the question was brought up of how a vote of no-confidence in the chairman could be enacted if required later.
The thread pointed out that if the CSM's chairman were to violate the processes laid out by CCP, there was currently no way to replace him with someone more capable. Those that didn't want Jade to be chairman used the thread to ask that he be immediately removed and replaced by someone else. However, the majority of the thread's responses supported the original idea that if the chairman did start to fail in his job, there should be a way of replacing him.
Jade addressed the chairman issue in a later thread, stating that he personally believed the chairman should be elected by a vote between the council members. Although current processes laid out by CCP did allow for him to step down and vote in a successor, Jade suggested that this would involve giving up his seat on the council entirely. Instead, he wants to get the CSM document changed so that the vote is mandatory for future elections. Making his intentions clear regarding his current term as chairman, Jade promised to step down and re-elect the chairman by vote if CCP permit that change during the Iceland meeting.
Why hold a second vote?:

Amidst the discussion over whether the council should vote for the chairperson or not, some players contended that the person who won the chairman seat had already been voted to the position by way of receiving the most votes. The problem with this is that the vote itself should not have served a dual purpose in the first place. People can't be expected to take the chairman position into consideration when voting for council members. Each of the council members was elected based on their plan for what type of player they were going to represent and what type of issues they were going to support. While this is all that's required to be a successful CSM applicant and win the initial vote, the council chairperson needs to have additional qualities that are not guaranteed by receiving the most votes in the general election.
The chairman is a normal voting council member whose responsibility it is to ensure the smooth running of the council. This requires a person who can easily separate their own opinions and agendas from their responsibility to fairly follow the established protocol. Whether they personally think an issue is important or not doesn't matter as each issue must pass through all of the official channels. This is an important concept because if the chairperson has more leverage over a decision than the other council members, that means he has more than just a single vote.
Allowing the council members to elect their own chairperson by vote would give them the ability to choose whoever they think best fits that role. It also allows them to voice their opinion on who they would most like to deal with in meetings, avoiding council members having to deal with a difficult or biased chairperson.
Rabble rabble rabble:

Complaints on the forum about the CSM have not been limited to its chairperson. Goonswarm, the game's largest alliance, managed to get two representatives voted to the council by sheer force of numbers. As expected, threads calling for a vote of no confidence in the two Goonswarm council members started up soon after the results of the debate were published. Complaints about Jade Constantine's handling of the council also began the day of the election results when he was declared chairman.
Jade's opponents claim that he has augmented his role by giving himself powers he is not supposed to have. In the third council meeting, he muted one of the other council members, an ability not outlined in the CSM document. Jade maintains that the council is meant to be making a lot of its processes up as they go along, that as the first council it's their job to work out the fine details and handle new problems as they arise. Jade recently added that he has deferred moderation abilities to other council members in the hopes of avoiding the problem in future. He goes on to suggest that since all voting council members have their own agendas, a non-council CCP employee should be chairperson.
Is the CSM fundamentally flawed?:
The concept of the CSM is a good one but its execution has been fraught with difficulty. A council of advisors who represent the playerbase to CCP could improve EVE immensely and shorten turnaround time on important issues being resolved. Unfortunately, due to low voter turnout, the elected members only represent the support of 11% of EVE's playerbase and so whether or not they truly represent the playerbase at large is still in question.
The council itself was created with vague guidelines from CCP and their influence in governing it so far has been almost non-existent. As a result, unforeseen issues such as how to conclude a vote's success or how to step down as chairperson without leaving the council entirely have been difficult to resolve. The council have had to fill in the blanks in places and build their own rules from the ground up. While this is an interesting foray into development of a political system, the lack of established structure adversely affected the council in its earlier days.
Final thoughts:
In laying down the law and inventing processes as he goes along, chairman Jade has ruffled more than a few feathers. In the eyes of some players, his abrasive personality and handling of the chair have brought the entire CSM into disrepute. Calls for him to be removed from the chair have surfaced on the forums, met recently with surprisingly enlightened efforts on the part of the chairman to keep the council on the right path.
As tempting as it may be to heap the blame for all of the council's problems solely on the chairperson, it is my considered opinion that as much of the blame lies with CCP as with Jade Constantine. If the council members had more direct guidance from CCP in administration and defining the chairperson's roles, most of the problems encountered so far could have been avoided or quickly resolved. Jade's eventual efforts to correct for previous problems and keep the fourth and fifth meetings conflict-free have proven effective and popular.
When initially declared chairperson, Jade left his critics with a strong statement of his intentions. "I've got my eyes on the future here", he said, "and I really want to leave the CSM process stronger and more certain for whoever is elected next time around.". The CSM is currently meeting with CCP in Iceland to discuss the issues raised by players so far and the future looks brighter than ever for EVE's first real foray into democracy.







Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
6-23-2008 @ 6:38PM
no one said...
The CSM was created as an attempt to assuage the EvE community over CCP's horrible handling of the various scandles involving developer assistance to the Band of Brothers alliance. CCP could have just as well read comments posted on the game developments forum and considered them as they desired. The issues of the player base will be heard from (and taken under consideration) to the same degree as they were before the CSM was created.
11% of the account base is pretty much an accurate number of those who a) actually actively play the game and b) give a damn about what goes on in it. The two large power blocs in the game, led by Band of Brothers and Goonswarm, gamed the majority of the seats. BoB votes went to Jade and Serenity Steele (Jade is a well known BoB fanboy, as is Steele (and played in BoB under a different account), and both hate the Goons and all that stand with them. Goons voted for Darius (their CEO) and Bane (a Goonfleet member well known for his extremely detailed dissertation on Titans, which was key to them being nerfed).
So, long story short, CCP created the CSM as a public relations ploy to distract and reinfranchise the player base, but it has no power and is irrelevent.
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6-24-2008 @ 12:12PM
Brendan Drain said...
I do believe it was mostly a PR stunt but CCP seems intent to use the council to focus player feedback. Think about it, it's an extremely low-cost way to find out the issues that people on the forums consider important. Instead of hundreds of threads, they let people report problems to the council, who in turn report them to CCP in a series of meetings. It's much more effective than having devs scour the forums and much cheaper than hiring someone to scour them.
6-28-2008 @ 10:16AM
James Egan said...
I don't think the CSM is "irrelevant" but at the same time I don't believe this first Council is going to drastically alter the game in any direct way. I commented about this elsewhere, but I view what they're doing as setting precedents and frameworks that will guide the efforts of future Councils. To me, that's what the lasting effect of the current CSM will be.
Jade Constantine is by no means infallible in the role of chairman, and muting another Council member is debatable at best, but he and the other CSM delegates are pushing ahead when a lot of naysayers have- and continue to- predict the CSM's doom before they've even begun.
I agree with 'no one' in that it would be naïve to think that the game is suddenly going to better reflect the wishes of the entire player base because a group of them is flown to Iceland periodically, but I think this is more than just PR on CCP's part. These issues being brought to them have now been made public record, they can't simply ignore them- they've got to address the issues somehow. And like Brendan said, that's an improvement over hundreds of 30-page threads on 'nerf nanos', 'save the Pilgrim', 'ECM is overpowered', ad nauseam.
Progress is slowly being made if CCP is openly dealing with these player concerns through interaction with the CSM, it's just not apparent to us yet- and probably won't be for some time. This first CSM will continue to take heat right up until the end, but I think hindsight will show that they accomplished something far more than just a list of prioritized issues and photo ops for CCP.
7-01-2008 @ 4:31PM
TigroSpottystripes Katsu said...
not sure how much big of an issue it is to not have most people voting on issues, they can't complain about the decisions cause they didn't voted on what should be taken in consideration (unless they did wanted to vote but due to some reason out of their ocntrol that wasn't possible)
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7-04-2008 @ 9:25PM
Jade Constantine said...
Pretty fair article for the time it was written. I think your readers will be very pleasantly surprised how well matters went in Iceland in the follow-up writing though.
Its very fair to say that I (and the other CSM's) have been finding our footing with very little guidance or procedural detail but yep, we persevered and got the job done through the first five meetings and took a decent selection of issues and proposals to the CCP council meeting at the HQ.
As for mutings and scandals and forum outcries, well, was to be expected really. I've never been the kind of player to shy away from controversy and everyone who voted for Jade Constantine knew they were getting some excitement in the position. I've made some mistakes, we all have, but ultimately the job got done and we managed a near miracle to get the CSM functioning from our end in 3 weeks flat.
But I will say things have now settled down nicely and the council is very capable of working well together. Face to face talks have a great way of resolving differences of opinion and mutual respect can grow from round table discussions in a way it never will in simple live internet chats or politicized forum debates.
Last point @ the first comment. Its worth noting that SirMolle (the leader of Evolution and head of Band of Brothers) publicly backed one of my rivals in the election and disagreed with the manifesto I was running. I'm certainly not in the CSM to represent BOB interests. I ran on a ticket of space combat dynamism and opportunity for small scale pvp and maximum player on play carnage in empire wars. Whilst I do sometimes agree with BOB individuals on certain policies its vastly inaccurate to describe my role on the CSM as a BOB rep.
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