EVE Online player run bank 1.2 trillion ISK in the red, freezes all accounts
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Players of the sci-fi game EVE Online experienced another parallel yesterday between what happens in the game's virtual economy and the real-world financial woes that have hit the banking industry. EBANK -- the game's largest player-run financial entity, disclosed that they are 1.2 trillion ISK (InterStellar Kredits) in the red, and froze the accounts of all players and player organizations which had invested with the bank.
EVE Online has one of the most developed virtual economies to be found in any massively multiplayer online game. Given that EVE is a 'sandbox', or an open world where gamers can do as they choose within that setting, the title's economy is player-driven, which creates many opportunities for a clever gamer. EVE Online players can make (or lose) their virtual fortunes as traders, industrialists, market manipulators, and a whole range of other playstyles -- which are all peripheral to the core gameplay of establishing and toppling empires through force or political machinations.
However, some EVE Online subscribers expand upon what the game's developers CCP Games have created and establish player-run financial ventures -- offering IPOs, various investment schemes, and even banks which pay out interest to their customers.
This is no easy task. It's done without direct help from CCP Games beyond the developer-provided API (which players can build third-party tools around, to monitor all sorts of in-game data). More than anything, such player-run ventures are hinged on trust, that rarest of commodities in EVE Online.

Still, some ventures like EBANK have enjoyed success in the past. The bank's board of directors and staff worked hard over the years to establish the viability, and credibility, of player-run financial ventures in EVE. Beyond any issues of trust, part of that credibility came from the faith players had that safeguards were in place to prevent any single EBANK employee from doing a runner with the trillions of ISK that the playerbase has deposited. Safeguards were in place, but this didn't stop former EBANK CEO "Ricdic", perhaps EVE Online's answer to Bernie Madoff, from embezzling well over 200 billion ISK in June and triggering a massive run on the bank as investor confidence was shaken, if not shattered.
There are numerous parallels between real world economies and that of EVE's virtual galaxy called New Eden... this clearly extends to corporate malfeasance as well.
It was thought that EBANK was recovering, as they weathered that substantial run on the bank and have continued operation in the months since. However, a more accurate picture of the bank's financial state has now emerged with the announcement of the 1.2 trillion ISK deficit.

Recently appointed EBANK Chairman Ray McCormack alerted customers and the game's playerbase to the situation and the reasons behind the decision to freeze accounts. McCormack didn't pull any punches when he discussed the ways EBANK had been mismanaged in the past. (It should be noted that EBANK has gone through several management changes since its inception, with McCormack one of the newest players brought aboard.) According to a statement from EBANK's board of directors: "controls were not enforced, auditing was never completed and reporting was almost non-existent."
Ricdic's (estimated) 250 billion ISK embezzlement was compounded by another 380 billion ISK in defaulted loans. What wasn't understood at the time of the embezzlement was how badly the past mismanagement of EBANK, particularly in terms of financial reporting, had impacted the entity.
After a recent management shuffle and closer scrutiny of EBANK's operations, the board of directors came to the conclusion that the deficit isn't only a matter of billions of ISK, it exceeds one trillion ISK and this shortfall increases by another 12 billion ISK each month.
Given EBANK's situation, the freeze on all accounts means no withdrawals will be processed and account interest will not be accrued until the bank can recover. McCormack explained that "withdrawals will be allowed once the bank achieves a maintainable equity status of 90% (1.8t currently); they will be stopped again should that fall below 80%."
He stated that accounts will bear interest again once "interest from non-intensive activities sustainably matches or exceeds the monthly interest expenses" and once "the bank achieves an equity status not less than 85% of its liabilities."
The situation is already grim, but in the name of full disclosure, McCormack said, "There are possibly further losses not accounted for, such as operational losses, additional theft and reporting errors. As these are established we will report on them."
These future disclosures will involve EBANK pulling data from the full APIs for all staff members who have had access to deposited funds. McCormack said, "You can at any time look at our Public Financials to see exactly with whom and where your ISK is." These Public Financials will be updated and released on a weekly basis.
EBANK has already released its financial information to the public and the Loss Analysis (aka "Where did all the ISK go?") is particularly revealing, showing the extent to which defaulted loans have impacted the bank.

Given all this doom and gloom, what is the future of EBANK?
Is there a future for EBANK?
This remains to be seen. The coming months will be a time when the bank consolidates its various ISK-generating ventures, and bank employee salaries are being put on hold until the bank stabilizes. Loans are being collateralized and the individuals and corporations who have defaulted will be named publicly. This is in keeping with EBANK's aim for greater transparency.
EBANK's board can't give a specific timeframe before they achieve full liquidity once gain, but they believe it will happen within a year. This will come as little comfort to the EBANK customers who are now cut off from their funds and the interest it once generated for them.
Looking beyond EBANK's troubles, 2009 has been a difficult year for player-run financial ventures in EVE Online.The failings of various high-profile ventures have cast even more doubt on the viability of what players can really achieve in EVE Online in these gray areas where players expand upon the game beyond the auspices of the game's creators.
Taking a step back here, this is one of those situations where even some die-hard EVE Online players may let out a Keanu "whoah" at the realization of what their fellow players can build up in this game, and the dramatic ways that these institutions can collapse. The truth is many EVE Online players simply enjoy the game for the sci-fi escapism it offers, with plenty of the requisite lasers and explosions. However, it's also a game with the depth to function as a limited virtual society with all the potential -- and potential for failure -- that implies. The fact that situations in the game like the EBANK debacle can parallel real world society is a testament to just how good a simulation of a galactic society EVE Online is starting to become. Or maybe it just means we're taking our games far too seriously.
Perhaps, as with this real world era of economic uncertainty and crumbling financial institutions, the situation will eventually turn around for these establishments the players are building. Until then, however, EBANK investors and staff alike will have to ride out the storm and hope there are better days ahead.



















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Venekor said on 9:36AM 8-26-2009
Why would anyone be so stupid to trust other players with their stuff?
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maika said on 10:54AM 8-26-2009
Yea, why would anyone trust another person with money for that matter? Just because they're a bank. That's why I keep all my money in cash, in a safe in my basement.
It's a little scary that our financial system failed in both the real world, and a virtual world.
Dblade said on 1:11PM 8-26-2009
The federal government insures banks though, and it takes a pretty catastrophic depression to make you lose bank deposits irl. No one insures a bank in EVE, and there is no punishment for a person just deciding to say the hell with it, steal every thing, and sell their account for a hefty rl payout.
If you put your money in a bank in EVE, it's like putting your money in a bank in Zimbabwe. You have no insurance, no protection, and are investing in a place which will as easily take all of your assets and spend them, leaving you penniless.
Grok said on 9:46AM 8-26-2009
*Yawn*
Another one? Does anything newsworthy happen in New Eden that doesn't involve some kind of fraud, cheating or embezzlement?
For once I'd love to see a news item on a Large Alliance being taken down through strategy and skill rather than some kind of confidence scam or outright cheating. Does that even happen?
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Firebreak said on 10:44AM 8-26-2009
Sadly that happens so often it is not "news" worth as it is the norm. Most of the great war was won and loss based on the skill of the strategist and fleet commanders and the morale of the pilots. Spying and espionage is just a tool in the tool box most of them time and it usually can't win wars by itself. That however is hardly news worthy.
S_Brennan said on 11:10AM 8-26-2009
What you guys are missing is that EBANK hasn't toppled due to someone scamming the bank -- it's toppling because of mismanagement and poor business practices.
The money that was taken by Ridic was only a portion of their finances. If it had just been that, then they probably could have continued with ease. However, a player had defaulted on a 275 billion loan (more than the amount Ridic stole alone) and multiple other players had defaulted to bring that number up to 380 billion. That's just a mismanagement of financial risk -- a far cry from someone coming in and stealing all of the money.
This is no "attack" on the bank or no attempt for the group to fold from someone else's wishes. This is not espionage or anything like that. This is just mismanagement at its finest.
Colin Brennan said on 11:10AM 8-26-2009
Gah, the last comment was me. Logged in with the wrong account. >.
UltimateQ said on 11:40AM 8-26-2009
I find all of this extremely interesting. Much more interesting than the "wow.com" articles. Oh and you did miss some news where a large alliance was taken down by strategy and skill.
http://www.massively.com/2009/06/18/has-eves-most-powerful-alliance-fallen/
Longasc said on 2:51PM 8-26-2009
Exactly. The problem is that things like that happen but over a process of several days/weeks. They are not that spectacular. And sadly, a lot of these battles in EVE are decided not by any war effort but by someone who got bored of the game.
Grok said on 4:42PM 8-26-2009
BoB's demise actually demonstrates my point.
"Band of Brothers was dealt a crippling blow back in February when a well-placed member of their own alliance defected to GoonSwarm, but on his way out, used his access privileges to disband the Band of Brothers with one click of a mouse."
That doesn't sound like skill or strategy to me. It sounds like abuse of game mechanics. While I understand that's perfectly permissible under CCP's rules, it is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about in my original statement.
JP said on 9:59AM 8-26-2009
I'm so torn over EVE. While game changing events like this are really interesting... at the same time, how fucking unfun to have your shit taken.
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Xennith said on 11:11AM 8-26-2009
I look at WoW these days and think to myself how utterly futile the entire thing is, I cant imagine killing someone and not being able to loot their stuff. Whats the point in that? Yay, I killed someone, hes now 100 meters away and coming back for another go. This is ultimatly the reason I didnt last in WAR, EVE has spoiled me.
Different strokes for different folks. EVE appeals to those who like their actions to be a little more meaningful, WoW appeals to those who want to jump in, perhaps run a dungeon, perhaps get some new shiny loot.
SgtBaker said on 11:35AM 8-26-2009
@Xen:
Funny, that. A friend was just trying to get me to play Aion, explaining how great it was. You know, wings and all.
I said, no thanks, I've been spoiled by EVE.
And having said that - he just can't get my fascination with EVE at all, he's tried couple of trials, always stopping a bit after the tutorial because "he doesn't have anything to do" :-)
Dblade said on 2:14PM 8-26-2009
Xennith:
the problem is that the more risk, the less chance you have to enjoy pvp for its own sake. In Mabinogi, if you duel, there is no risk, so people can choose to say "No final hit, no transformed forms, no range..." they can choose to mutually exclude things that make the pvp experience lopsided or unskillful. They can even play it for fun, bashing people over the head with a lute, or using the duel to have a player fight against a player's strong pet instead of the player himself.
But with risk, you are encouraged to make the PvP as lopsided, unfair, and cheap as you can in order to minimize your risk and maximize that of your opponent. That's why EVE will never rise above what it is now, no matter how much PvE they add.
Tom Luongo said on 10:23AM 8-26-2009
This is what is supposed to happen when bankers badly assess the risk of their financial endeavors. Bankruptcy. Let's see if EVE's economy is robust enough to have EBANK sell off the good loans to pay for the bad ones. Understand the real lesson here, private individuals made poor choices and were not rewarded for their lack of judging the future. No government bailout to step in and spread the loss to those who had no stake in the venture.
Now, if only people will truly listen to the lesson.
Ta,
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Dblade said on 2:27PM 8-26-2009
Tom, banks are insured by the FDIC to prevent that lesson, because it is catastrophic when banks are forced to fold. In EVE it doesn't even matter unless you believed in the bank enough to deposit insane ISK-if it folds, just go, do some more missions or sell a timecode, and no real harm. In real life it could spread to destroy even the most robust economy, so you have to have bailouts and safeguards.
It's silly to use a make believe economy as a basis for evaluating the real world.
GaaaaaH said on 10:27AM 8-26-2009
Even discounting the ricdic scam, they still would be massively in the hole
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SgtBaker said on 11:30AM 8-26-2009
Evul people in forums are saying it was ponzi scheme all along.
Honestly, I wouldn't be very surprised ;-)
One thing that EVE is missing - is law enforcement.. in a player run game starting something like this is pretty cool - but in the end it's all based on trust, which sadly enough, means sooner or later someone is going to run with the money and shaft everyone else. It's a ticking bomb and it's going to go off, no matter how "trustworthy" the people running the thing are.
In real world they'd get chased by the authorities and tossed in jail, but in EVE - well what's the worst thing that can happen? Someone will send you angry mails and complain in forums?
So yeah, it's ok to take a calculated risk and invest some in order to get some interest - but to actually believe your ISK is safe... puhlease..
It makes a great story though :-)
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Jermonsta said on 11:40AM 8-26-2009
Time for a bailout!
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UltimateQ said on 11:41AM 8-26-2009
Eve has so much style. This really appeals to me, but I don't see me being able to stick with this game. It really makes me sad, because this game seems amazing.
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