You must realize, Kingon puissant, that not all of the federation is comprised of what you have termed a "carebear". There are plenty of us that have held up a tradition of military conquest and domination. and the counselors have finally unleashed their dogs of war...

Angel,


That is only because we lent you Worf. But the Federation is still made up of too many Wesley Crushers, and no amount of posturing can hide that stink.

Sweet ... pre-beta smack talk ... :)

Wesley turned his back on the Federation for some warm feely good inter-dimensional hippy life. good riddance.

Worf was one of us through and through. it was the Klingon empire that abandoned him, not loaned him to us.


Unfortunately history in the federation is painted as one diplomatic act after another. Propaganda is fun like that. Its all about spin as well. Believe that crap if you wish. It will only keep you off guard for the REAL military minded backbone of the federation when you encounter us.

Kirk was not a feel good kind of guy. His diplomacy, more often than not, began with phasers and then ended with a photon torpedo barrage.

We might be down and almost out, but I'm looking forward to some Federation-Cardassian cooperation. Despite all their terribleness (Nazis... IN SPACE!), the Cardassians have always been my favorite. Time to get some redemption on.

Also: rebuilding a home planet that was all but glassed.

We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.

I'm gonna bust a lightsaber in your... oh wait. Wrong game.

You're pretty far off, actually. Star Trek always has had war lingering in the background. What makes the Federation push forward is trying to resolve these conflicts peacefully, through understanding. Unfortunately, fighting is sometimes a necessary action, and the Federation would not be in the position to fight for peace if it were unable to fight for it's life.

The Klingon is one that is completely based on war and combat. However, as seen throughout the years both in The Next Generation and in the movies, some in the Klingon empire have been influenced by the Federation's noble motives, and have realized that kill first, ask questions later is not always the best tactic.

Now, as far as advertising, what is going to be more visually spectacular, and have a greater impact on people for the first time? Why, space battles with lasers and explosions of course! There is going to be exploration and diplomacy as well in the game, but how can one show that in a promo video that wouldn't turn people off of the game?

You are right - if they don't allow RP elements as well as a sandbox element - this game will miss the point of Star Trek. Star Trek fans are a rabid bunch and will make the game better than any developer can.

I'm not sure what I don't like about this game...but there is something that doesn't feel like Star Trek with it.

I'm still turned off by their first trailer that said that the mission of the Federation was to explore strange new worlds and to seek out new life and new civilizations.

I see both sides of the argument. The Star Trek series have been oriented towards space exploration and peaceful inter-species cooperation. War was constantly averted by Jean-Luc Picard and company; despite his best efforts, James T. Kirk didn't start any, either.

Of course, there's Deep Space Nine, which was pretty much space opera writ large - the Federation at war, and losing but for the (literal) gods in the machine.

So: the game appears to focusing on warfare more than "The Next Generation" did. But 1) the universe has always been a angry place teetering on war, it's just that the series have all been set at relatively peaceful moments in history, and 2) who knows how missions will actually resolve. If I remember correctly, parts of space/missions are randomly generated. Maybe Federation players can use Charisma to talk down new hostile races?

Sorry to tell you, usually my least favorite Star Trek episodes are the ones that don't involve ppl being blown up. There is a reason Wrath of Kahn is my favorite. And despite it's reviews and being labeled as the one that killed the series, I thoroughly enjoyed Nemesis.

Ppl need to realize that others enjoy the franchise different reasons. There those like me. There are those who dedicate themselves to learning kilngon in the back of German class. There are those who like the fantasy of the science behind it all and study schematics of ships. And there are those who like the lore.

Tomorrow, my mailman will be dropping off the next disc in the DS9 series for me to watch. I decided to watch the entire series after seeing a clip of Sacrifice of Angels (Sins of a solar Empire has a very nice Star Trek mod). In fact I just got to that part of the story last week.

Let's not try to pan this as "generic space game 436" when 1. there aren't but a handful (like a two year old's hand) of games like this out there, 2. The game is still pre alpha, and 3. the space combat looks to be at least trying to emulate Star Trek.

"the key here is what tools cryptic will provide the player with aside from some phasers and a few photon torpedoes.."

I hoping at least part of Cryptic's answer has the following in it: "lots and lots of photon torpedoes." :)